Is that...*really* a snail? - Observation of the Week, 9/5/24

Our Observation of the Week is this Carea moth caterpillar, seen in Malaysia by @rhinolin!

This July, Lin Yu Fan, a naturalist from Hangzhou, China, found himself hiking in the Damai Rainforest Resort in Sarawak, Malaysia. A family traveling with him spotted an interesting snail, which he photographed and posted to iNaturalist and initially identified it as a snail when he got home.

On August 18th, iNatter @larry216 sent me a message and suggested it as an observation of the day, writing

I came across it while reviewing identifications for Pythia, a genus of rare land snails from southern Asia, through the Indo-Pacific, to the South Pacific. I noticed a few things that were odd about this one, which led me on some late night research in the category of “What the heck is that???” The results can be summarized by the questions, “When is a land snail really a caterpillar? When is its ‘head’ really its ‘tail’?”

Larry identified it as the caterpillar of a Carea moth (check out those small legs, above), and that ID was confirmed by moth expert Dr. Roger C. Kendrick (@hkmoths). Yup, it’s a caterpillar that mimics a snail! I reached out to Dr. Kendrick about this taxon, and he recommend I check out Jeremy Holloway's write up of the tribe Careini in the Moths of Borneo, which states “The larvae are characterised by a ‘berry-like’ swelling of the thoracic segments.” 

For his part, Lin Yu Fan says 

[The family and I] were completely deceived by its camouflage, thinking it was a special type of snail, and I didn’t notice it when I uploaded the records later. Big thanks to @larry216 and @hkmoths for help with identification.

Back at home, Lin Yu Fan (above) serves as a nature educator. 

My main job is to lead others to go outdoors, observe nature, think about the relationship between man and nature, and establish a connection between myself and nature. On weekends we will do activities in parks and mountains around Hangzhou, and during long holidays we will go to different provinces in China or other countries. In these camps, campers are always enthusiastic and very observant. Although I am the one who brings them to these places, it is often they who help me discover more creatures that I have not noticed, and this observation is an example. It’s a process of helping each other and learning, which I enjoy very much.

He joined iNaturalist about four years ago, on the recommendation of his friend @smalltown_huang, who he says “has uploaded many amazing records himself and is very enthusiastic about identifying the records of others.”

This system and the people in the community help me understand more different organisms and form my own database, which allows me to better prepare for my nature courses. Many thanks to all staff and community partners….I hope that in the future I can continue to upload records on the platform, assist in identification, and make more friends.


- take a gander at photos of adult Carea moths, or check out more photos of the caterpillars!

- learn more about caterpillars and caterpillar research in this interview with @gaudettelaura!

- if you want to help out with annotations, like annotating lepidoptera observations as adults, larvae, pupae, etc., check out this tutorial!

Posted on September 6, 2024 12:40 AM by tiwane tiwane

Comments

Wow! That's super cool!

Posted by jon_sullivan about 2 months ago

Amazing find!!!🤩

Posted by brycetheplant about 2 months ago

Thank you to Lin Yu Fan for submitting this observation and larry216 for identifying this incredible creature. It is a special treat to see such a unique caterpillar.

Posted by patti_edens about 2 months ago

Wow!

Posted by jmaughn about 2 months ago

Congratulations on having your observation featured, Lin Yu Fan! I particularly enjoyed reading about the work you do to connect young explores with nature - wonderful photos all around!

Posted by scarletskylight about 2 months ago

Such a beautiful find, nature sure is amazing! Congratulations to Lin Yu Fan! :)

Posted by twan3253 about 2 months ago

Fascinating! Congratulations all around!

Posted by alanyoshioka about 2 months ago

This caterpillar is deterring one set of predators by pretending it has a shell?

Posted by dianastuder about 2 months ago

A very cool catepillar!

Posted by sunnetchan about 2 months ago

Wow that’s incredible!! I had no idea such a creature existed. Amazing. Great spotting!

Posted by lisa_bennett about 2 months ago

Well done, guys. I love your work with the young generation. Way to go.

Posted by rejzekm about 2 months ago

@dianastuder just guessing, but additional possibilities might be to give the impression the larva is parasitised, which might deter some predators, or the swelling might serve as a reservoir for a bad-tasting liquid which could deter others. The linked account says "the larvae of the several Careini taxa he studied were heavily parasitised by Hymenoptera and attacked by numerous predators" so there must be lots of selection pressure.

Posted by deboas about 2 months ago

This is very cool! Thanks for sharing the observation, and your wonderful story - love the emphasis on reciprocity in learning!

Posted by paulypod about 2 months ago

Super cool! Congrats!

Posted by texas_nature_family about 2 months ago

Great to be able to see so many aspects of the adult Carea moths, and of more photos of the caterpillars! - to appreciate and learn from. Thank you for posting all of these. Appreciated.

Posted by kellso about 2 months ago

Interesting and different! The diversity of life on this planet is amazing! Thanks for sharing such a strange and interesting creature.

Posted by seaheart88 about 2 months ago

what a cool observation and story. Just shows both how documenting life even if seemingly ordinary and sharing it and having someone state that this is extraordinary is one of the amazing facets of inat. Congrats @rhinolin @larry216

Posted by ram_k about 2 months ago

Extraordinary for sure! Thank you!

Posted by susanhewitt about 2 months ago

grand little story of how even observant and outdoor hardened educators still can be at a loss to convey how ecological niches get occupied and how evolution drives the animals and plants therein.
There is only one way to find out - more in situ investigation, which of course needs patient, critical observation, trying to tease out the ecological relationships between Carea taxa and their predators. Nobody yet knows the real answer (or answers).

I would like to thank @tiwane for adding on the point regarding annotations - it is really helpful to endusers like myself if observations of invertebrates are annotated for the life cycle stage, as this gives much insight into each species phenology.

Posted by hkmoths about 2 months ago

Wow, that's amazing!

Posted by bosqueaaron about 2 months ago

What a very cool find!

Posted by newelljo about 2 months ago

Such a great story. We post the obvious. We post the obscure. We post what we know, and what we dont know. And in there, known or unknown, we contribute important, sometimes unexpected, observations. Love this! Great community!

Posted by gaudettelaura about 2 months ago

Whaaaaat?! That's amazing!

Posted by ocean_beach_goth about 2 months ago

It is just incredibly awesome. I didn't expect it. Gods creation glorifies his wisdom. We thinks we are just uploading some observations which accidentally clicked by our cameras, but sometimes that make incredible effects like this. It is really an encouragement for all observers.

Posted by nayanjuliyasaji about 2 months ago

Stunning one! Thankfully, there are multiple shots to facilitate an accurate ID.

Posted by dotun55 about 2 months ago

Wow, I love this!

Posted by ajott about 2 months ago

Amazing on so many levels!!

Posted by scoutingforplants about 2 months ago

Fascinating!

Posted by elliotwilliam about 2 months ago

Amazing!

Posted by sedgequeen about 2 months ago

Great mimic!

Posted by santosh-vithura about 2 months ago

Amazing 😉

Posted by mackayanna about 1 month ago

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